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What the bleep have I watched

A few months ago, after hearing about its cult status, my girlfriend and I rented What the Bleep do We Know? While I tried to remain somewhat skeptical of the film's linkages between quantum physics, cognitive processes and the impact of thoughts on the physical world, I was intrigued by some of the ideas and the quoted experts--with the noted exception of JZ Knight.

So I wasn't that surprised to learn that Knight "channels" Ramtha, a 35,000-year-old warrior, nor that Ramtha has his own New Age school, Ramtha's School of Enlightenment. But I was somewhat surprised to learn just how much this highly successful movie is linked to Ramtha's educational institution. How much so? For starters, all of the filmmakers are "students of Ramtha," according to the film's FAQ.

Now an extended version is coming out, What the Bleep do We Know? Down the Rabbit Hole, in which "interviews are lengthened and a full 95% of all interviews is never before seen footage exploring the links between quantum mechanics, neurobiology, human consciousness and day-to-day reality."

As for the ideas presented in the movie, sure, they're New Age physics meshed with feel-good cognitive science. But that's not the most annoying part; despite the hokiness of the presentation, I do think that some of the ideas presented are worthy of scientific investigation.

What's frustrating, however, is that a film created by followers of a 35,000-year-old channelled warrior now essentially owns, at least in popular culture, ideas that fewer scientists will want to touch for fear of being associated with the Ramtha-ites.

Sure, the movie has helped bring some interesting ideas to public attention. But it's doubtful whether it's done anything to advance the scientific study of the ideas it addresses. Unless, of course, the Ramtha School of Enlightenment plans to build a particle accelerator and open a neurobiology lab.

Published Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:38 PM by Simon
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Mr. Farlops wrote on March 14, 2006 10:50 PM

I call this stuff, the mixture of quantum theory with parapsychology mumbo jumbo and the New Age, "quantum la-la."

Quantum mechanics is a very strange theory. I think it's much stranger than these mystics and religious people will ever appreciate. But quantum la-la, like all psuedoscience, is ultimately based on the misinterpretion of parts of scientific theory.

It's not that the observer affects the observed (Thus supposely validating some vague psychic nonsense.), it's stranger than that: *Measurements* affect that which is measured. That is a much stranger and more difficult concept.

I'm not too worried about physicists neglecting any implications of quantum theory. It's one of the most accurate theories in physics. It's been tested inside-out. Like it or not, this is how reality works. The biggest problem in physics these days is the attempt to reconcile general relativity with quantum theory. So far, we've failed at this. Sorry I'm not worried there still much research to be done.
 

urchinstar47 wrote on March 15, 2006 5:03 AM

Quantum theory IS the closest to absolute reality that we can get for now.
 

jonness wrote on March 15, 2006 11:49 AM

I haven't watched this film, and I know nothing of this phony 35k-year-old dude. But isn't it funny how this supposedly enlightened dude is stealing ideas from other people who have been saying pretty much the same thing and who actually have credibility in THIS world?

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/goswam1.htm

IOW, I would expect this 35k-year-old spirit to come up with at least one thing that seemed even slightly unique other than the actual mumbo-jumbo.

Applying quantum physics to spirituality is nothing new, as the two seem to be a likely fit. In fact, Erwin Rudolf Josef Alexander Schrödinger was quite curious about how the world of the very small applied to reality in general.

http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/history/Mathematicians/Schrodinger.html

So quantum physics is a quite foreseeable and obvious choice as a vehicle for brainwashing ignorant people into believing in a false religion. As I recall, I did see a talk show on this Ramtha dude years ago, and at that time, there was no mention of quantum ideas. In fact, the "enlightened mumbo-jumbo" was purely based upon other more popular BS of the era. It is a nice change to have Ramtha finally get turned on to quantum ideas. I just really have to wonder where this Ramtha dude was a hundred years ago when Maxwell Planck promoted ground-breaking ideas about quantum mechanics and was severely criticized for his work. In retaliation Planck noted, "
A scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it." Yet, Ramtha, having 35k years of knowledge and intelligence failed to stand up for Planck. Imagine if Ramtha had stood up for Planck back then, perhaps he could point to that now and at least have a "little" bit of credibility as somebody who understands the bleeding edge of modern-science in a spiritual sense.

jn
 

grahamwolf wrote on March 15, 2006 10:03 PM

 

grahamwolf wrote on March 15, 2006 10:07 PM

Dammit...

Click here for "Help me, Ramtha"
http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/newsletter/ramtha.html
 

Mr. Farlops wrote on March 16, 2006 12:07 AM

NOW THAT'S FUNNY! Thanks Graham!
 

grahamwolf wrote on March 16, 2006 12:44 PM

8-)
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I aim to understand, apply and develop science, technology and communications to achieve positive change. To this end, I am the owner and operator of Betterhumans, which I founded in 2002. I also work in interactive healthcare marketing, helping pharmaceutical and other healthcare organizations effectively use interactive technologies. Currently, I'm also working part-time on a masters degree at the University of Toronto in the history and philosophy of science and technology.
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