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The Use of Ozone in Medicine

This video has recently become free access on goole. If you are into alternative health and longevity at all it is really worth watching. Ozone could save a life needing saving.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8249818030797137906&q=medical+ozone
Published Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:14 PM by Arrow

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gjbloom wrote on October 3, 2007 8:57 PM

From a chemistry standpoint, I view all claims of therapeutic use of ozone with extreme incredulity.  Ozone is one of the most powerful oxidizing agents known.  It will cleave any unsaturated hydrocarbon and is capable of degrading aromatic molecules that have strong electron donor moieties as well.  Ozone is, in short, a chemical chainsaw.  For many years it was used for analysis of complicated molecules by breaking them apart into more easily analyzed fragments.  Ozone will, for example, completely degrade urea into carbon dioxide, water and nitrogen.  Needless to say, it will cleave any biological polymer such as protein, DNA or RNA into bits.  Introducing such a destructive molecule into the body is about as sensible as drinking bleach.  In fact, it is essentially the same thing.

Anyone interested in the chemical properties of ozone may be interested in this: http://ozone-information.com/Ozone_in_Detail.pdf

 

gjbloom wrote on October 3, 2007 10:09 PM

Okay, I watched the video.  There appears to be a huge body of anecdotal evidence that people subjected to ozone therapy have experienced health improvements.  Conspicuously lacking, however, are any, ANY, double-blind studies establishing the efficacy of ozone for any medical condition.  I say conspicuously lacking, because the video takes great pains to relate that many hundreds of "peer-reviewed" articles have appeared, primarily in foreign journals, that support ozone therapy.  Isn't it odd, therefore, that out of all of these hundreds of studies, not one of them would adhere to traditional scientific protocol?  The video dismisses this phenomenon by saying "what physician would want to deny half of his patients a therapy he knows will work"?  The answer to that rhetorical question is "any physician who is interested in establishing the truth and whose results may potentially save many more lives than the few he places at risk in a double-blind study would want to risk half of his patients".  

Some of the assertions made in the video are pure and obvious BS.  Ozone is so reactive that it will attack the first double-bond it comes across.  So any claim that ozone is somehow delivering "more oxygen" to afflicted parts is obviously ignorant.  Nevertheless, it is possible that ozone, by chopping up biomolecules into fragments, will stimulate a strong immune and/or metabolic response from the body to what it perceives as an obvious attack.  It is therefore conceivable that ozone might have a net positive effect, despite the apparent chemical stupidity of administering it.  Still, the conspicuous lack of ANY double-blind studies in the face of wide-spread international use is a big red flag, in my opinion.

 

Arrow wrote on October 8, 2007 11:25 AM

The double blind study is a construct largely of the pharmaceutical companies whose main goal is confuse the mind, hide the facts, obstruct the truth.  Not to heal you but to take your money.

Dr Bocci had done extensive  in depth research on ozone therapy. This therapy has been used for over 60 years successfully for many diseases. It can cure some cancers.

You think you know a lot about ozone but you really do not know how it affects the human body.

Huge body of antidotal  evidence? Try millions. Ozone hospitals are now opening in India and Malaysia, Mexico. Many clinics are springing up in the USA. Advanced applications of ozone are curing HIV and other devastating disease.

The  pharmaceutical company backed FDA has no interest in US citizens learning about ozone.. It would make a big dent in their wallets.  

If you are on this forum to learn about making a better human, a better human society and better health for yourself perhaps someday you will get past the propaganda feed to the American people regarding health. OUR NATION IS DYING OF CANCER! It is happening NOW. Ozone therapy is a viable way out of this death sentence for those who have the eyes to see and the ears to hear.

After you talk to a few folks who have had their cancers cured, their fibermyalgia taken away, their crohn's disease cured with ozone,  as I have, you may reconsider.

Even more important, ozone therapy provides a way to effectively detox the body to prevent serious disease from occurring. People who do not work regularly on detox risk their lives to devastating disease. Detox of what you may ask. Detox of heavy metals, pcbs, benzenes,  pesticides, foreign bacteria and virus that exist at subclinical levels.

Go to www.HealthSalon.org and click on the oxidative therapies thread to read all the details on ozone therapy and why you should seriously consider it as an adjunctive therapy in the treatment of chronic disease.

 

gjbloom wrote on October 8, 2007 10:32 PM

You are confusing scientific methodology with economic motivation of US pharmaceutical companies.  I agree that pharmaceutical companies would have little incentive to perform rigorous testing necessary to scientifically prove ozone therapy benefits, and are thus unlikely to do so.  However, there are many organizations that are not motivated by profit.  Many of them are also outside the US economy.  I find it impossible to imagine that not one of these practitioners would take the time to establish unassailable evidence of ozone's efficacy.  By failing to do so, they are preventing ozone therapy from being adopted as a mainstream practice, and, if it is as valuable as they claim, they are preventing hundreds of millions of people from desperately needed treatment.

You mention your own anecdotal evidence of seeing people cured of disease by ozone therapy.  Yet, if you are objective, you must admit that there is a possibility that each of these people may have healed spontaneously.  Unless and until rigorous double-blind studies eliminate any possible bias on the part of practitioner or patient, and establishes a statistically significant benefit for ozone therapy, such doubts will persist and ozone therapy will remain unavailable to most people.  

As I said before, if ozone therapy has such a huge positive effect, and is being practiced by so many doctors, it is extremely suspicious that not one of them has bothered to perform a rigorous double-blind study to establish these benefits as part of the medical mainstream.  It seems much more likely to me that all of these practitioners are motivated by the same compelling greed that you accuse US pharmaceutical companies of.  Perhaps double-blind studies have been attempted and were not publicized because their negative result would ruin a lucrative practice?

Science is science.  Anecdotal 'evidence' isn't science, no matter how many people believe it.  Failing to do the science is irresponsible - either by denying those in need of a beneficial treatment, or by foisting an ineffective and perhaps dangerous treatment on desperate people on the basis of hearsay.  Do the science.  Prove whether it works or not.  Then rest with a clear conscience.  Short of that, you're killing people, one way or another.

 

Arrow wrote on October 14, 2007 3:41 PM

I suggest that the works of Dr Bocci be read to understand ozone therapy. I do not think I am confusing scientific methodology with economic motivation.  Much study has been done on ozone therapy in Germany, Cuba, Italy. There is more that one way to study an application. Empirical science encompasses more than the double blind study. It is the science of observation. People have been observing the effects of ozone clinically for many years with over a million applications and cures of very serious disease. Many case studies and repeated applications in the same disease with the same results by physicians and clinicians around the world. The cost of double blind studies is prohibitive for  most  physicians. In Germany the government is so convinced of ozone therapy that further "double blind study" is a non issue for a therapy that is known to be effective in certain disease states and may be routinely prescribed by many physicians in clinical settings.

If I had HIV it is where I would be going. To the best ozone clinic I can find.

watching T cell counts rise with ozone therapy is  evidence enough for me. After sufficient therapy HIV  markers can no longer be found.

"A central concept in science and the scientific method is that all evidence must be empirical, or empirically based, that is, dependent on evidence that is observable by the senses. It is differentiated from the philosophic usage of empiricism by the use of the adjective "empirical" or the adverb "empirically". Empirical is used in conjunction with both the natural and social sciences, and refers to the use of working hypotheses that are testable using observation or experiment. In this sense of the word, scientific statements are subject to and derived from our experiences or observations.

In a second sense "empirical" in science may be synonymous with "experimental". In this sense, an empirical result is an experimental observation. The term semi-empirical is sometimes used to describe theoretical methods which make use of basic axioms, established scientific laws, and previous experimental results in order to engage in reasoned model building and theoretical inquiry."

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